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  Survival guide for copyboter
Posted by: Minaussa - 11-13-2018, 09:12 AM - Forum: Second Life - Replies (4)


This is a survival guide for copyboters, as newbies may ask themselves the risk they are taking to use copybot viewers.

"Can i use darkstorm, relevelator, etc safely without getting my secondlife account(s) banned or legal prosecutions ?"

Its a simple question that have a complex reply and can be subject to debate.

we all have our own view on this here and i think people need find their way and create their own opinion.

here are some facts that are absolutely not guarantee regarding to fact that nobody know what strategy uses third parties, we can assume but never guarantee:

- using as is a copybot viewer (connecting an avatar) cannot lead to a ban as is
- what you do with copybot viewer and the way you do it could lead to a ban , so this depend of you

i think you guys need consider at least 2 things :
- why do i want to copybot and what i will do with the copyboted material ?
- put in the balance : what i will get from copyboting on one side and what i can lose on the other side, depending on witch side the balance will fall then you can take a decision.

There are 2 kinds of secondlife users, those who have "light" account(s) and those who have "heavy" account(s)

light account(s) : pretty young account, could be old, with not much personal investment nor much money invested in them
heavy account(s) : old accounts (can be young too) with lot of purchased assets (some might have spent thousands of US$), and for some with a light to heavy business

The light users has not much to loose beside the heavy users. As a light user can start all over again if he/she get to loose a secondlife account.
A heavy user would not be happy to start all over again and for some people it can even have a very bad psychological impact to loose everything.

so the following guidelines may concern in priority to heavy users.

- copyboting stuffs to re-upload them on secondlife is a HUGE mistake that may lead to a ban (some people here might no be thinking like me)
- if you decide to re-upload RENAME EVRYTHING, do not use original names, brand names and DO NOT LEAVE NAMES WITH OBJECT UUID IN THEM

some materials are anyway usable with +/- risks:

- poses/animations : re uploading this is potentially safe as there is no way to prove that this pose/animation have been copied

- textures (skins, makeup, tattoos, etc.) : a potential safe way is to use there UUI instead of re-uploading them (by using dev kits to apply them, in this way you use a texture with its original creator's name, not your name meanwhile if you upload it, it will be under your name), 
but still you can get busted in a very particular condition that might probably never happens (this condition is that a creator know you have his/her texture, and check in his/her purchase database and do not find you as a customer. This action is possible but in a practical manner i don't think any creator would be walking in SL to do such verifications, but uploading again a copyboted texture would be a mistake, my advice : don't do it.

- mesh bodies/head : it would be a huge mistake to re upload such material specialy if its maitreya or belleza or slink or signature or aesthetic, anybody can scan you and figure out you are copyboting.
Some here have suggest to link a dummy prim from the creator to the mesh, but still its a bad idea because this trick would fool regular users but wont fool popular bloggers or creators themself.
Because when you inspect an object in SL you get the list of all the structure, so in our case, the first line will be the creator's name but the other lines will be with your name and that is ofc not normal.
Also if you did not name the object exactly the same way that the creator would do then its a copyboting proof.
Also re-uploaded meshes have more complexity than the original ones (i made this observation myself) i do not know why but its also another copyboting proof visible to all.
Example: you have a maitreya body with a simple mesh clothing, your complexity should be around 30K to 50K but you are seens with more than 100K, that is not normal.

- meshes of all kind (homes, decors, furnitures, etc.) : this represent a moderate risk, if you rent a land and use copyboted stuff, there is a chance that a neighbor like something you have and decide to scan it, he/she can figure out you are a copyboter and report you, the probability is still low.

Copyboting become a huge cool thing if you are interested into OpenSim, in this case you would have access to cool assets for free to use with your private sims

Now if you are a heavy secondlife user and want to copybot, here are my recommendations :

- create a new brand avatar, the first time you do that i recommend you do it from a Mac Donald or Starbuck WIFI connexion, using a TOR browser and the YOPMAIL email provider and a MAC address spoofer (why do i need to use an external WIFI at registration ? Because Linden Lab might record and associate your internet provider technical details and your computer MAC address to your account, so you wouldn't want to have your internet provider recorded to a copybot avatar the same way to your main(s) avatar(s).
- ALWAYS USE THE SPOOFING options when you use copybot viewers (they all have them)
- if you can use a different computer dedicated for this, that would be a big plus, other solutions is to use virtual machines and MAC spoofers.
- never use your credit card on this account, if you need lindens on your copybot avatar, use a Linden Dollar laundering technique (i will write a post about this later)
- never send lindens, objects, chats, to this avatar from your mains, and never have any interaction of anykind between your main(s) and a copybot avatar 
- never show off to your friends that you copybot
- never share with your friends copyboted stuffs
- never walk in crowded places such as events with copyboted stuff on you
- do not try resell copyboted stuffs ( you could go into serious legal issues specialy with maitreya and catwa who do not hesitate to put lawyers on the way)
- do not think that nobody cares about reselling digital material and nobody will run after you, that is totally false, if a brand holder decide to go in court, like maitreya or catwa who are a "million dollars" companies would do , they will do everything to find you, and once they success, believe me you life is screwed up (investigations may take years so don't feel safe because you didn't have problems within 2 or 3 months). Does it worth it ? im not sure. but its my humble opinion.


TOR is an open source project to anonymise your IP inside a web brower, i suggest you use it to connect to you copybot avatar SL account, and any copybot activity. Note that TOR do not hide your IP from the viewer.

VPN is a commercial solution to anonymise your IP and your whole online activity
Be aware that a commercial VPN is not there to allow you commit online digital crimes, and those VPN "might" with no garantie and despite whatever they claim, log your real IP into databases and give them on request in case of criminal investigations.
This point is quiet complex to debate now so i will stop here on this, just to say dont think that a VPN is secure to do shit online.
Using a VPN with SL might lead to a ban even if you do not copybot.
Why ? Simple, a VPN provide world wide IPs, imagine you connect at 10:00 am and you get a USA IP, then you connect at 11:00 am and you get a Japanese IP. Linden will detect that your account has been used by 2 different geographical locations that are so far away of each other that it is impossible to move from one to the other in just one hour. So they will consider that your account is haked and put it on a hold. In some cases they ban the account, i dont relay know why but it happened to some people.

This all is good, but you do ONE fucking mistake and you give Linden Lab a hard evidence that you are a copyboter.
what is a mistake ? you log your copybot avatar once with forgetting to spoof your IP and MAC address so linden will have your same MAC logged in their database associated with that copybot avatar and your main one(s).

If for some reasons you got reported, Linden will figure it out at a mouse click and you are done.

Do linden lab scan secondlife to detect copyboter ? i would say NO. But they have investigation tools and special processes for that and they do actions when residents do reports, specialy those who initiate a DMCA.

How much is my chance to get busted in secondlife? Well this depend of the level of risk you take doing copyboting.
If you just rip off stuff there is absolutely no risk, well again depend how you do it, if you are always walking in a noob avatar into popular places, without even deactivating your mouse beam and cam cross, you might be reported.
- deactivate your camera cross
- deactivate your mouse beam 
- do not go in events with an avatar with age less than 30 days
- do not go in events with a noob avatar, wear at least a xenomorph (rabit, monster, cartoon or whatever, there are many on MP for free)
- do not camp positions
- reply to people who speak to you, you do not need to hold a tea evening conversation but reply at least to the first lines 

I have myself spotted copyboters while i was ripping off textures (those ones who committed the mistake of re-uploading famous creators textures without even editing them to remove copyright patterns)
I have even spotted creators copyboting other creators, thats hilarious LMAO.
So i think there are also some creators who use the copybot viewers either for investigation purpose either for copyboting. So be aware.

So far to conclude my post, i would say its a complex point and one is sure, if you just go ripping stuff silently you wont run in trouble.
Also on the board almost all use copybot viewers since years and never got any problem. Does it mean it's safe ? Well its like your home insurance, you may pay all your life for it, and nothing will happen, but you may forget to pay one time your insurance and get your home burned !!!
Here is a simple moto rules : Not seen copyboting, not busted, simple.

~ edited to add the new version she did send me Smile.

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Heart {Song} Placebo Gacha Eyes
Posted by: Cloudzelda2 - 11-12-2018, 03:02 AM - Forum: REQUEST - Replies (10)

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Please does anyone have these? sdpecially the white first column rares?

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  Help with a Picture Style
Posted by: Cardia - 11-08-2018, 11:43 PM - Forum: REQUEST - Replies (3)

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I have a question.
Who can tell me how to get such a photo style?
Or can someone recommend me a good and cheap photographer, who makes such pictures?

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Question WAKE UP
Posted by: MrGlitchD0x - 11-08-2018, 01:42 PM - Forum: General - Replies (25)

is this forum still alive or is it dead like everything else?

i was looking for Coyote or King to ask them about VIP guess everyone has fled to RL lolol    Sad

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  Gorean Meter Melee Scripts
Posted by: G0DR4TH - 11-08-2018, 01:16 PM - Forum: REQUEST - Replies (3)


So there's some script I'd love to have in a actual working version and I saw you can get one for 40k L and its not even full perm. Quite crazy for some script if there's an actual way to just copybot it. So I dont really know how to copybot a script, neither does my friend who uses the copybot already for a while. 
I've seen its prefered to share something before actually requesting something BUT - I would share stuff if I got a script to make something work - Who wouldnt love some full perm weapons for Gor, except for people that just dont play on Gor.

I'm meshing stuff myself and would love to create some weapon business with that script, starting with melee's and maybe add range weapons later on. Unfortunately I dont really feel like paying 40k L for scripts that arent full perm or about 3k for scripts that are from 2012 and are outdated since years (I tried one of those). So I heard once Scripts can't be ripped but then I saw theres a script section so I thought there might be a chance.

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  Need some Blender Advice On MakeHuman/Blender Project
Posted by: saphsback - 11-08-2018, 01:41 AM - Forum: REQUEST - Replies (10)

Good Morning To All!
Im on vacation this week, THANK GOD! and I have been playing with make human to see if I can't make some mesh bodies for Opensim.
 I love the Athena but its been banned from Digiworldz for copybotted body. and the ruth and roth are nothing more than Tweaked SL default Ruth' (not to mention I sense that this project is not going any further with opensim content but with a license as the creator has seperated himself from the original google group and formed his own).   so off I go to make some new different bodies... Wink  Smack me now!

 I can upload them to blender and rig them with Avastar  upload them into Opensim and deformities form in the mesh in the elbows when moved out of the Tpose, pieces come out of the mesh from nowhere and its jagged in places. I did smooth in Make Human and Blender...example below.
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So I figured it had to be in the rigging, I have rigged them Exactly to the mesh 10 times same result. So I dug around and found Opensim Rigging for make human and used it instead of Avastar this was the lovey creation it formed.
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 I am hoping that One of you smart whippersnappers know what I am doing wrong and can throw saphs some advice how to fix this mess.
I was not sure where to post this so if its in the wrong place just smack me lightly...Smile

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  [Request] Skin in Tan & Shape
Posted by: JadeJewell - 11-07-2018, 08:26 AM - Forum: REQUEST - Replies (5)

Looking for this skin in Tan skintone as well as the shape that is pictured, if anyone has it. Many many thanks in advance!

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Heart buying online fitted mesh for SL
Posted by: Fem'nominon - 11-07-2018, 08:10 AM - Forum: General - Replies (3)

hope is the right place for this.....

 ive seen some"creators" on the market. whom im thinking are buying there rigs and fitted meshes online somewhere and selling them on the market. i know Meli dous it.she used to have a link to the person who actualy made her outfits etc.
so im wondering if anyone knows of such persons on the net who sell there creations to others to sell.

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  Tableau Vivant \\ Lelutka HB7
Posted by: YugoslaviaMC - 11-06-2018, 02:49 PM - Forum: REQUEST - Replies (1)

Hello, I would like to know if you could help me with this hair base Tableau Vivant \\ Lelutka HB7

Thanks you so so much

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Thumbs Up Hola amigos
Posted by: GirlBoss5 - 11-06-2018, 07:15 AM - Forum: INTRODUCTIONS - Replies (1)

like this site Love

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